Comments on: Eclipse at Sun

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By: Texas Startup Blog: Web 2.0 and Social Media » Blog Archive » Sun Apologizes . . .

Sun, 21 Jan 2007 20:37:24 +0000

[...] Last week I blogged about Matt’s comments and reprinted an earlier post I wrote titled, "Eclipse at Sun." Turns out Jonathan, the CEO of Sun, apologized to Matt in his own blog on Friday in a post titled, "Courage is Relative." (Originally titled "Good, Bad and Brave" He wrote: And before you send me the email, yes, I saw the entry written by Matt Mullenweg - and all I can say is… I’m really sorry, Matt. That’s not the way Startup Essentials is supposed to work. We screwed up, and you’re completely right to suggest if that’s the norm, we should kiss goodbye our aspirations of reestablishing our business in the startup community. If there’s anything I can do to win a second chance, I’d like to know. I appreciate your first sentence. [...]

By: Alexander Muse

Alexander Muse — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:26:23 +0000

Mark - I didn’t expect Sun to loan us a server, they offered it. We were simply honest and indicated that our application did not currently run on Solaris when talking to the CSR. The reason for the loan was primarily to facilitate a potential port.

I think the confusion lies in the fact that we are part of the same company - i.e. Architel, SimpleTicket and Big in Japan are under the same corporate umbrella. You assume that we were simply a SimpleTicket user, instead of the developers of SimpleTicket…

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 17:27:15 +0000

I’m sorry, but if you expect Sun to loan you a $15,000 server to just “play with Solaris”, you are not living the the real world.

It was your responsibility, as a SimpleTicket customer to determine if the application was available for Solaris by contacting the ISV. As it was not, it was your responsibility, as a SimpleTicket customer, to request a port from Architel.

Certainly, Sun, as an OS vendor, has a responsibility to support ISVs. However, in this case, it makes far more sense to loan a free server to Architel rather than you.

Alternativly, as SimpleTix is an open source program, why don’t you look at either porting it yourself, or working within that community to get a port done? If your plan was to port software, rather than “play with Solaris” you would have a much better case for the loan of a $15,000 computer.

You clearly just want turnkey solutions. As such, you will limit yourself to what is available. You cannot have your cake and eat it to in this world. Choices of ISV applications necessarily limit the OS and hardware options available. The reverse is also true.

By: Mike Jackson

Mike Jackson — Thu, 06 Apr 2006 01:57:35 +0000

For what it’s worth, you can get solaris x86 from sun without (much/any) hassle and load it up on a Dell or similar PC workstation for a low-friction way to give solaris a spin. It won’t perform nearly as well as their (very shiny) new kit, but for simple compatibility testing it’s an option. Installation is much more reasonable now than in the past, 10 in particular is much improved. With respect to cost, the sysadmin time is going to be similar either way, and you’ve probably got the equipment already somewhere for the solx86 route.